Hardware Review: Wii U

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  • Publish Date: November 19, 2012

Updated November 21

What it is

Wii U box

Is it worth getting your hands on one?

Nintendo's successor to the Wii is the first new console launched in six years and represents the first entry in the eighth generation of videogame consoles (with new Xbox and PlayStation devices expected to follow in 2013-14). Unlike its predecessor, the Wii U boasts high-definition (1080p) graphics, and is notable for its unique GamePad motion controller, which incorporates a large touchscreen, stylus, speakers, camera, and microphone, though you can also opt for a more familiar Wii U Pro controller (similar to the current Xbox controller) instead. In addition, older peripherals like the Wiimote and Nunchuk will be supported, and you can continue to play your old Wii games on the new unit.

You'll need to download a firmware patch (available on the first day of release) to enable the console's online features, including Nintendo's eShop and the "Miiverse" social network. (Note that the need to obtain the day-one patch means that Wii U reviews are being published later than expected.) Additionally, the Nintendo TVii feature—which allows you to watch videos on services like Netflix, Hulu Plus, and YouTube and use your GamePad to control most DVRs in addition to providing "second screen" content for shows you are watching on your TV—will not be fully implemented until December.

Pricing

While many stores are reportedly sold out—forcing fans to shell out higher prices on the secondary market if they cannot wait to get the new console—the original retail price of the basic unit (white, 8GB memory) is $300, while a deluxe set (black, 32GB, includes GamePad charging cradle and NintendoLand game) retails for $350.

Launch titles

Listed below are the games available at launch (in North America) for the Wii U. Note that publications have only just begun reviewing them, so many of the titles do not yet have Metascores.

Wii U Exclusives
ESPN Sports Connection Game Party Champions New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo Land Rabbids Land Sing Party ZombiU
Other Titles
Assassin's Creed III
Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition
Ben 10 Omniverse
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Darksiders II
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
FIFA Soccer 13
Just Dance 4
Madden NFL 13
Mass Effect 3
NBA 2K13
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Skylanders: Giants
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
Tank! Tank! Tank!
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
Transformers: Prime
Warriors Orochi 3
Wipeout: The Game 3
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013

Additional Wii U exclusives are expected to arrive within the next few months, including Rayman Legends, strategy game Pikmin 3, and promising GTA-style open world adventure Lego City Undercover. Visit Metacritic's new Wii U section for reviews and release dates for all new and upcoming Wii U titles.

How good is it?

The new Wii U seems to be a curious beast. Reviewers are both blown away and frustrated by the GamePad controller, depending on how it is implemented in any particular game, and are also somewhat pessimistic about the console's chances for widespread success—and the ability of Nintendo to attract third-party developers—despite the nifty new features. Some critics also feel that the console doesn't take enough of a step forward to really feel like next-generation tech. That said, the Wii U is also receiving plenty of praise, with some suggesting that, in time, the GamePad could indeed be a game changer. But, given the relatively lackluster launch lineup, many reviewers recommend a wait and see approach.

The basic hardware

While the design of the console is fairly stripped down and simple—and, save for rounded edges, very similar to the original Wii—Destructoid writes, "This is a sleek, sexy little machine that conforms to modern design sensibilities more than Nintendo fans will be used to." Polygon has mixed feelings about the "long" console, noting, "Laying flat, the system looks kind of silly. But vertically, it cuts a sleek, friendly, and modern silhouette." Kotaku lauds the Wii U as the finest piece of hardware ever made by Nintendo, adding, "For once, we have a Nintendo console that doesn't feel like it is pocked with omissions." That publication, however, does fault both the 8GB and 32GB memory configurations as being far too small.

Reviewers as a group find the HD graphics equal to those of the PS3 and Xbox 360, but don't expect visuals superior to those competitors; as Ars Technica writes, "If the Wii U is capable of generating graphics more detailed than those of other current systems, the launch games I've seen so far don't do a great job showing that off."

If you are trying to decide between the basic console and the deluxe set, the latter seems to be the way to go, with virtually all critics strongly suggesting that the added game, cradles, and memory more than justify the extra $50.

User interface

Critics aren't exactly raving about the on-screen user interface—which isn't much of an upgrade over that of the original Wii—though it gets the job done. But Gizmodo writes, "The home interface is a little frumpier than the Xbox's (formerly) Metro facade, but it's just flat-out more functional, especially with the [GamePad]." However, the menus, game loads, and switching between system applications are all noticeably sluggish, and often painfully slow. The Verge wonders how this could be the case when the UI is so low-res to begin with, and concludes, "Patience is a virtue, but so is processing power. I don't have the first, and the Wii U doesn't have the second." Other reviewers are also having problems with Nintendo's online store, the eShop; Shacknews calls it "a total disaster" as a result of poor navigation and lack of information. Don't expect much from the built-in web browser, though it compares favorably to those in other gaming consoles.

The new GamePad controller

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"This sure is a Nintendo device, eh? Or is it every Nintendo device, all at once?"

Engadget

Unsurprisingly, the GamePad is attracting the most attention in reviews, and critics seem to like it. Joystiq is intrigued by the controller's potential for new types of games and adds that "it feels at once futuristic and comfortable, less like an ersatz tablet and more like a really comfortable (but big) game controller with a helpful screen." Other critics also are finding the controller to be lightweight, extremely versatile and functional, and mostly well designed, though the placement of a few of the buttons may take some getting used to. Reviewers are also impressed that the action on the TV and the GamePad's screen appear to be completely in sync, with absolutely no lag time. Another plus for many critics is the fact that the GamePad can be used to play (some, but not all) games and watch video even when your TV is off (as long as you are within range of the Wii U console, that is, though Eurogamer notes that, "unless you're gaming in Wayne Manor," range shouldn't be an issue).

However, there are some complaints about the responsiveness of the touchscreen and its lack of multi-touch gestures, while a few critics dinged the screen's less-than-HD graphics (though several reviewers nevertheless defended the screen's graphics as vibrant and pleasing anyway, with graphics comparable to or better than those of the original Wii). Battery life could also be a major issue; many complained that Nintendo's suggestion that the controller should stay charged for 3-5 hours of gameplay is wildly optimistic, with actual usage routinely falling at the low end of that estimate (or, for more than one reviewer, well below the 3-hour mark). Polygon notes that the limited battery life could also impair the controller's alternate use as a universal TV remote. (Note, however, that you can use the GamePad while charging it via an included 8-foot cable.) While complaints about the look and feel of the device are few, detractors include Engadget, which feels that the "controller gives off a relatively low-grade impression; it looks and feels like a toy." Ars Technica agrees that it might be toy-like in appearance, but adds, "physically it feels more substantial than that." And, while most reviewers find that the unit isn't as bulky as it looks, CNET concludes, "After a few weeks with the system, it's tough to get around just how cumbersome the GamePad really is. It's not the type of controller that you can just set down. It takes up a lot of room."

The biggest question mark about the GamePad, however, concerns its integration into the gaming experience. Notes The Verge, "When it's used right, the GamePad is an awesome complement to the TV interface — I loved having it as my pocket PDA of sorts during Ninja Gaiden, or using it to draw routes for Yoshi in Nintendo Land. But every game implements the GamePad differently, and most don't do it very well."

Reviewers are finding no compelling reason to purchase the Xbox-style "Pro" controller at the moment, especially given that controller's lack of motion controls and incompatibility with many games.

Comparison to the original Wii

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"Nintendo's Wii felt like a gaming revolution. ... In contrast, Nintendo's high-definition Wii U console feels less otherworldly and more bound to existing technology."

Los Angeles Times

While the Wii U has no launch title with the instant appeal of Wii Sports, reviewers find the step up to HD a welcome change, and think that the GamePad could theoretically do an even better job of attracting a varied group of gamers to the console than the original Wii. But it might be harder for Nintendo to get that concept across to non-gamers; writes Canada's Financial Post, "The beauty of the original Wii was its simplicity — its innate power to enable anyone from young children to grandparents to pick up a wand and jump into a game. ... It isn't easily apparent exactly why the concept of having a second touchpad screen would enhance the enjoyment of the experience of using a video-game system. Unlike the Wii Remote, which people could instantly understand, the reasoning behind the Wii U GamePad is murkier." CNET agrees that the new console's innovations aren't immediately obvious, and adds, "I'm not sure the Wii U emanates the same wow factor that the original Wii did. For me, using the GamePad didn't feel all that revolutionary simply because it feels like a souped-up 3DS. Instead, my wow moment was playing Mario in HD for the first time ever."

More reviews

Below is a publication-by-publication sampling of the critical response to Nintendo's new console, listed in alphabetical order by publication name. If a publication assigned a score to the review, it is listed below (converted to a 100-point scale if necessary for purposes of comparison); otherwise, we did not attempt to assign scores to reviews that did not have them. Click on any publication name to read the full review.

1UP
If you haven't bought a Wii U yet, relax and take a breath: You're not missing out... yet. I should point out that the hardware has its perks and the tablet controller is definitely cool, but a lot of the big features behind Nintendo's new system currently need a little more prep time.
ABC News
On paper, the Wii U sounds like a simple win. Take Nintendo's best-selling handheld, their best-selling system (Wii), the graphics of their competitors and mash that up with latest developments in tablet technology. And in many ways it is, combining the best of the last five years in an incredibly unique and well-designed package. That said, there's a ways to go in terms of games that take advantage of the touchscreen, the GamePad's battery life, and we really do wish another controller was included in the box.
Ars Technica
While the new controller is unlikely to cause the stir that the original Wii Remote did, it's still a well-made product that brings a lot to the table.
Associated Press
The Wii U's success will depend on what Nintendo and other developers do with that second screen. The early results are very promising.
Canada.com/Postmedia News
After spending time with the console, it's obvious that its graphical capabilities aren't that much better than the PS3's or Xbox 360's. So in some ways, after releasing the under-powered Wii, the Wii U is just Nintendo catching up with the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
CNET
Focusing solely on gaming, it's going to be tough to recommend the Wii U to anyone who already owns a PS3 or Xbox 360. A sizable chunk of the system's launch games are already or soon to be available on the aforementioned systems. Just like with the original Wii, first-party and exclusive titles are really where the Wii U needs to knock it out of the park in order to incentivize a console purchase. In almost every other department, save for what Nintendo TVii is supposed to provide, the other consoles on the market have the Wii U beat: network and offline media playback, diversity of streaming services, exclusive games, and speedy operating systems. Despite its unique dual-screen presentation, innovative GamePad controller, and ambitious Nintendo TVii service, the Wii U still has a lot to prove. [Score pending launch of TVii functionality in December.]
Dallas Morning News
I really like playing games on the Wii U. The hardware itself feels great, and I've enjoyed the experience. The ports of games from other systems aren't the most exciting things (even though in some cases, like Ninja Gaiden 3, the Wii U version is superior to the original), but much of the original content has impressed me in at least some small way.
Destructoid
The Wii U has a few faults, with a less colorful, simplistic touchscreen, and a dire battery life, but ultimately I have been impressed by its flexibility, as well as the welcome chance to see Nintendo's colorful library of games designed with HDTVs in mind. ... The GamePad's motion controllers are inherently superior to the Wii's, and the ability to play any type of game with one controller, regardless of genre, is something I find quite exciting.
Engadget
Games look gorgeous (HD Mario!), the risky controller is another successful control innovation and there's a ton of promise on the horizon.
Entertainment Weekly
If you're someone who values innovation and evolution in videogames — who found yourself waiting in vain for Nintendo to use the Wii's motion-control scheme to push the boundaries of the medium forward — then the initial launch of the Wii U feels like a gimmicky missed chance. It's like one of those countertop touchscreen videogame systems you find in bars. The Wii U is Megatouch writ large: Fun enough to amuse you, too cheap to complain about, and nothing you'll ever remember in the morning. [Grade: B]
Eurogamer
From what we've experienced of the hardware and games thus far, the new console definitely feels a bit pricey, bearing in mind the gaming proposition on offer.
Financial Post
It may not be perfect yet, but the system feels refreshing and new, and I'm excited to see what games will come out for it as designers get to explore the GamePad and what it can do.
Forbes
I worried the controller would be a gimmick. The Wii motion control system certainly was too gimmicky for me to ever enjoy. But so far at least the new tablet gamepad for the Wii U is pretty great.
Game Informer
I'd gladly trade off more battery life for a heavier controller. [Score: 4.2/5]
The Gameological Society [formerly A.V. Club]
Before you even start playing a Wii U game, you practically need a flowchart to figure out what you're supposed to have in your hands, and how you're supposed to be holding it. That state of affairs is perplexing when you remember that not so many years ago, in the heyday of the Wii, Nintendo was stridently insisting on design simplicity. ... The upside to this less directed design, of course, is versatility.
Gizmodo
Implementation in games is a bit of a mixed bag, but when it's used correctly, the two-screen console experience is a firm step forward in Nintendo's modern identity: Original, creative, fun games that get more fun with more people.
The Globe and Mail
While the new console is likely to initially appeal to non-core gamers with its novel functions and capabilities, its future with the regular market – and therefore with game makers – remains questionable since it doesn't offer many advantages over competitors.
IGN
I'm not convinced Wii U is going to age as well as the next round of consoles - but I am convinced that it's going to offer a completely unique experience with a large handful of irreplaceable games. Unfortunately, those irreplaceable games really don't seem to exist just yet.
Joystiq
The Wii U doesn't feel exactly like the "next generation." The menu interface feels like the Wii, and the graphics output by games are nothing that can't be done on the current generation of HD consoles. Furthermore, the troubles already apparent in the Wii U's online services point to Nintendo as usual, behind not just on networking in a conceptual way, but literally behind on its implementation of its own network. However, the GamePad, even if it doesn't feel like the linear progression of game console technology we'd expect, does feel like a futuristic leap.
Kotaku
Having played a batches of games on the Wii U and having had the system in my home for nearly a week, I can confirm that it is a good machine that makes one's console gaming life surprisingly more convenient and luxurious. I just can't tell you that you have to have one now.
Los Angeles Times
Whereas the Wii arrived like a gift from the future, Wii U at first seems to be playing catch-up with a world where the screens that dominate our lives are not the ones found on a home television but the kind that can be carried with us. ... Yet Nintendo is on the forefront of multi-screen gaming, and one doesn't need to have the Wii U turned on long to see that the system is full of pleasantly unexpected surprises.
MTV Multiplayer
It's the console that will singlehandedly change the way people play games for years to come.
New York Daily News
If you don't own a console, then this is an easy purchase. ... If you already have an Xbox 360 or a PS3, add this to your Christmas list, but feel free to put a few things above it. You can afford to sit tight for a few months, avoid the holiday rush, and wait out the Wii U's early hiccups. One day, you'll certainly want a Wii U, because this console's potential is impressive, far better than its predecessor. So unless you need to play New Super Mario Bros. U right now, you don't need a Wii U. But it's hardly the worst thing to find under your Christmas tree.
The New York Times
The Wii U does not deliver the sensation that its predecessor unleashed, the sense that something new had been wrought upon this earth. ... Instead, the Wii U feels like an accommodation to the new mode of living that Apple's iPhone and iPad have introduced.
PCMag.com
The Nintendo Wii U is an impressive system with a lot of potential, but with so many features still not implemented and only a handful of launch titles currently available, we've yet to see if it can live up to that potential. [Grade: 3.5/5]
Polygon
It's difficult to figure out exactly what Nintendo is trying to do with the the Wii U. Granted, the enthusiast press has demonstrated an inability to grasp ideas from the company that later turn out to be brilliant in retrospect, such as the Nintendo DS's dual screens or the Wii's motion control. But that doesn't change the fact that few games on the system use the GamePad to do something new with console gaming. Some users are sure to appreciate the ability to play some games on the couch without using the television. But the Wii U is a poor substitute for a tablet and the games that both the gaming audience and the wider public at large has come to expect since the launch of the iPad in 2010. More damningly, the need for the Wii U GamePad to be wirelessly tethered to the main hardware makes for an experience that negates much of the convenience of tablet gaming. [Score: 6.5/10]
Popular Science
The Wii U is really fun, even though there's just the slightest twinge of disappointment in some of the exclusive launch games. I'm going to buy the system, don't get me wrong--it's a neat step forward and nicely, surprisingly, never felt gimmicky--but it just feels like I'm doing it as an investment right now, covering my bases for when the Great Wii U Game--maybe Pikmin 3?--comes out.
Shacknews
It's clear the tech works. The seamless integration of TV and second screen must be commended. Nintendo Network, specifically Miiverse, must be applauded. And Wii U's multitasking capabilities put other consoles to shame. However, many should be (rightfully) worried about the system's graphical prowess.
TechCrunch
It's a fun console for families, folks with big groups of friends, and nostalgists who can't miss the latest Metroid installment. In short, like the Wii before it, the Wii U aims at multiple demographics, misses many, but hits just enough to matter.
Time
I haven't been this impressed with a new interface since Nintendo put a joystick on a gamepad in 1996. [Second review of online functionality here.]
USA Today
Until we see Nintendo Network fully functioning with the TVii service and additional games that take advantage of the GamePad, it's hard to say whether Wii U recaptures the console magic. [Score: 3/4]
The Verge
There are things it can do, things enabled by the GamePad / console twosome, that are both awesome and unique. ... But these moments of brilliance are for the moment overshadowed by the clumsiness of the system. ... In all, the Wii U is still as much a tech demo as anything else. [Score: 7.0/10]
Wall Street Journal / All Things D
Despite the Wii U's refreshing features, its sluggish behavior makes it a product I can't fully recommend.
Washington Post
It has potential. But it's not living up to it quite yet.
Wired
Unfortunately, Nintendo is still lagging behind when it comes to creating what consumers are increasingly expecting out of their devices: a feature-rich, multimedia online experience. Wii U, available in $300 and $350 configurations, has a bunch of these features — Netflix, a social network feed called Miiverse, a digital game shop — but all of them have distinct problems that make the user experience less fun than it should be.
Wired / Geekdad
For every nuisance, for every menu misstep and absent app, the Wii U packs a pleasant surprise. ... The Wii U hardware and its launch have both proven far from perfect, but the fun that my family has had over the past two weeks of playing with Nintendo's latest console serves to remind me of one undeniable fact; even flaws can't ruin a truly good time.

What do you think?

Are you excited about the Wii U? Are you planning on getting one? What do you think of the idea of a touchscreen controller? Let us know in the comments section below.

Comments (12)

  • heime2003  

    my review for wii u:
    1. graphic is not exactly next gen while its stepforward from wii it is somewhat lacking of wow factor
    2. more games are needed. not just ports from previosly released for other consoles but more original stuffs that utilize wii u unique controller
    3. i hate how easy to get scratches from touching surfice with anything but smooth
    my wii u now has numerous scratches and looks like my 3 years old ps3....unbelivable

  • TheQuietGamer  

    Having played more games on my Wii U I feel I'm ready to give a full review on the system. I love my Wii U and don't regret buying it at launch even though it's not perfect. You could probably fill this section up with your complaints about the systems features (which I personally find groundbreaking) and you wouldn't even touch on the Wii U's main problem, and that is a lack of exclusive games.

    When the Wii U first launched we saw some truly unique, system exclusive titles like Nintendo Land and ZombiU that showed off what the Wii U can do and how it can be a system that offers something new and exciting. However at the launch we also saw games like Batman: Arkham City and Mass Effect 3 ported over to the Wii U and featuring bonuses like unique gamepad related features, and usually DLC already installed on the disc. While those were great games, and seeing them ported over to the Wii U excited people who don't ever buy consoles other than the ones made by Nintendo, it wasn't what the Wii U needed. Why didn't the Wii U need these games? The answer is simple, how are you going to sell a console to Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 owners if the majority of your games have already been released on the their system a year or more ago? Again the answer is simple, your not.

    I know what your thinking why should Nintendo care about making sure that their system sells to PS3 and 360 fans?" They should care because nowadays most people don't stick to just one console, instead they choose to play different consoles for the different types of games available. For instance the PS3 has the Uncharted and Killzone series exclusively on their consoles while The Xbox 360 has the Gears of War and Halo series exclusively on their consoles. These are just a few examples but you should get the point, people that have both consoles chose to have both in order to experience what each system has to offer. Nintendo has but to much time and effort into porting games from the PS3 and 360, and not enough time on creating system exclusive games that will show gamers why the Wii U is special/unique and create an experience that is worth their time.

    This wouldn't have been a problem had Nintendo done two simple things after launch. The first thing would have been to do like I said and focus on creating Wii U exclusive titles, the second thing would have been to continue giving us games for the Wii U! After launch I noticed that I wasn't hearing anything about new Wii U games coming out. That was because there were no Wii U games coming out. Nintendo left purchasers of the Wii U without any games to play after they finished the launch titles. This is sadly still happening, Nintendo is releasing games at a snail pace and the games they are releasing are still just ports of games from the PS3 and 360. We even got a port of a Wii game (Monster Hunter 3). Lego City Undercover (I am currently playing this game and will have a review posted after I beat it) is the only Wii U exclusive title that has been released lately. If Nintendo wants to have the same games that the PS3 and 360 have then fine I'm cool with that, but have them released on the Wii U the same time they launch on the other consoles. I'm also cool with Nintendo porting games from the PS3 and 360 with the DLC installed on the disc for free as there are people who haven't experienced those game yet and the free DLC is a extra added incentive to play it on the Wii U. I've personally have enjoyed playing games like The Amazing Spider-Man on the Wii U and not having to pay for the DLC made it a little bit sweeter.

    So yeah I'm cool with the ports of PS3 and 360 games, so long as making ports of these games don't take priority over creating new games. Unfortunately for the Wii U, Nintendo, and most importantly we the gamers, the ports are currently the focus over at Nintendo. So far the only game I've really heard Wii U owners getting excited over was a port of Deus Ex Human Revolution, and when all the hype for a game on your system is just a port your doing something wrong. Nintendo needs to focus less on porting and more on giving the Wii U more system exclusive titles if they want the Wii U to sell more consoles. I still enjoy my Wii U but can't help but wonder if, in the end, it will fade into obscurity thanks to Nintendo's lack of games. Not just system exclusive game, but games in general. They really need to get to work on delivering experiences or else the Wii U just wont sell like it should, and the ones that have been sold will just gather dust.

  • DoubleDoge  

    Now, having seen things like the Illumiroom (from Microsoft), Project Shield & Steam Box at the CES, this can only add even more pressure on the Wii U .

    Oh, not to mention the release line up that is being speculated for the PS4...

    Come on Nintendo, give the people some games, at the very least!

  • TheQuietGamer  

    I've only played 2 games on it so far (Nintendo Land and ZombiU) but I love my Wii U.

  • sd11  

    @ doubledoge

    Well im certainly not a spammer, nor a nintendo fanboy. My main point is that having the ability to play these games without a tv is a huge plus for me. Also the console being outsold by ps3/xbox isnt exactly a direct comparison as the reports i have read are that this is mostly a stock issue. But think of what would happen if this failed...nintendo turning into sega would be a shame.

    With regards to the games I have read the reviews and from what I have read it seems a mixed bag. Sure batman, darksiders 2 and mass effect 3 are cheaper and in some ways better on the consoles they were designed for (ps3/xbox). But the main issue seems to be the price, so if you dont own the other consoles its not an issue. Call of duty varies many say it is better on ps3/360 a few say wii u due to the gamepad (im not sure).
    On the other hand assassins creed 3 performs as well for the same price. Tekken, sonic racing and skylanders are all reviewed as being better on nintendos system, so its a mixed bag. Plus zombiu is great, although they need to fix the gameplay bugs immediately.

    For me the gamepad works. For you..well you knew the games that were ported over on day 1, you knew the prices, you bought it, then said you have been duped and sold it at a loss before giving it a chance. thats just crazy, the information was there. With regards to the updates....i own a ps3, they never stop doing large updates unlike the xbox who do nice small updates. I look forward to the updates making the console better so can put up with this.

    Im fairly certain that for me, unlike the wii (gimmick), the wii u will have a place (mostly due to the off tv play) alongside the next gen xbox console that i will most certainly buy, . Also the rayman demo was amazing.
    Sure if you dont want zombiu, mario or the ability to play this without a tv , and you own a ps3 or 360, then at the moment do not buy one as its most likely a waste of money. But i like it and thats my opinion. You dont, you bought it due to hype then regretted it as you can play the games cheaper on your current console. Were you duped tho? Or just swept up in a desire to buy this and then you regretted it. ( I dont think thats being duped, its just a bad purchase choice that you made)

  • DoubleDoge  

    sd11

    Dude, the WiiU was outsold by nearly 2 to 1 by both the xbox360 and PS3 on its opening weekend/month. Thats a start and very telling.

    Here why. Its twice the price and does little more. What it does more of, it actually does worse.

    The games are nearly twice the price and if you read the reviews are not done as well as on either the Xbox or the PS4.

    You'll have to wait 2 hours before you can start playing anything because of the frustrating and endless download updates that you need to do prior to playing.

    I also own all 3 consoles but while the games cost so much more for the WiiU and are not as good, I'd have to be an idiot to be shouting about its merits, that are few.

    I've also owned every other Nintendo console over the years.

    Now, you're either a spammer from Nintendo or someone who loves Nintendo and can't bring himself to admit he's been done, because it just not that good.

    Its an expensive let down and you have been duped (like me) although I've sold mine at a loss now.

  • sd11  

    Amazing console. So its not necessarily a huge step up from the PS3 or 360. I own both and now a wii u. I love the wii u. I have heard some ridiculous statements from people bagging this. Firstly hardcore gamers wont use it. What rubbish. A true hardcore gamer would use a wii u, they would also own a 360 and or ps3. Hardcore gamers dont stick to a single system, each has their merits. Secondly I love this as I can play games without a tv on. In my garden or while my wife watches a program and wants to do casual chatting at the same time with me in the same room. I have heard statements from people saying they could do this with a 3ds or vita. Again ridiculous. Do these allow full screen play, can you play full versions of batman arkham city, assassins creed 3, monster hunter 3 or zelda in the future..No. I love this console and hope it succeeds. So what if the ps4 or 720 are better,I will just buy one of them and use my wii u as well for nintendo exclusives or games where i might not be fussed about the tv.

    This is a great console, that already runs ps3 and 360 games that are not optimized for it. In the future it will be pushed ahead of these consoles. I doubt it will keep up as much with the upcoming consoles, but really they wont be released for another 12-18 months. So until then ill play the latest new console ( along with my other ones) and let other people make assumptions and moan about it in fear that it might be better than what they own. ( I think it is the mine is bigger than your mentality).

  • DoubleDoge  

    timbers_WSU

    Dude, no one is listening, it probably seems like no one cares...

    But here's the crack, no one is listening, because you are absolutely right, no one wants one and no one cares. This is sadly a dead duck before it has even started I'm disappointed to announce. I heard the other day someone describe the touch screen as, 'so 2008'. Having considered this evaluation for a few days now, I have to agree and found another way to put it to the reader...If you have ever used one of those photocopy machines where you have to physically press down the touch screen to copy, then you will understand that this unfortunately is an outdated way to have to interact with the Wii U controller. It actually clicks under your finger. Underwhelming at best. Awful really.

    Yes, 5 years ago this could have been something. But why make the hardware essentially obsolete? It has been said that if the new xbox and ps4 do release next year they will boast something like 16 cores or 2 computers, essentially powerhouses, which in turn will be approximately 2 years out of date by then...so why release the Wii U with something so under powered? It feels cheap now, let alone how its going to feel when the new consoles do release.

    Now, the games...In my local store these are 50 quid each. What? 50 quid...for what? Rehashes that I have played already and that can be picked up for half the price on a system where I can instantly pick up with friends. No, I don't think so. This needed some juicy titles and it doesn't have them. Nothing to note for future titles either, and I have looked, oh so desperately, everywhere in the hopes there will be something, anything. But there isn't, not even a sausage to get the juices flowing.

    Most telling I think is the fact that on Ebay, the WiiU, despite the apparent lack in the shops, is not selling at a premium price. Despite being less the a few days old I have seen these selling at a loss already. Shocking really, but testament that even the diehards, including me now, think this is a console too far. I'll take my small loss now I think.

    Feel this though, I traded in my Wii, a PS3 and about a dozen games and the trade in came to circa 200 quid so i paid another 200 quid for the premium Wii U, a game and a charger. DOH! Don't worry, all is not lost though, I still have my Xbox, phew! However, on reflection, this doesn't have to end badly because my pain is your gain. Listen carefully now though, just don't do it, at least not yet...

    I hope I'm wrong, but I think it might be time to say, 'RIP Nintendo'. We've had the best innings and before you go, I must wholeheartedly thank you for that. Good luck, but you're on your own now.

    JAS.

  • timbers_WSU  

    Final review: Skip it. Nintendo doing things their way and not listening to the consumers and developers have finally cost them. The N64 was left behind by the Playstation and the Saturn (At least across the seas.) The DS was a mess before they added the backlight. The Gamecube was a failure. The 3DS launch was a failure. And looking back at the Wii it was a failure to the people who would buy the Wii U....The core gamer.
    The hardware itself is just old tech. After playing my 360 and the Wii U side by side for over 2 weeks I have determined that for every thing the Wii U does better in the same title it also does something a little worse. Of course these are ports, most likely rushed to meet the launch date but still. Why is a 7 year old machine as good as this? Unlike the Wii remote the Wii U gamepad is not gonna be a big game changer. It is the 3DS all over again. No one plays with 3-D in most of the games and most people will probably play most titles with the pro controller. To me the pad is more of a hindrance than anything else. The machine is to expensive, you have to pay for extra hard drive space which is baffling and stupid considering how cheap it is these days. You will have to invest in controllers and the gamepad is not gonna be cheap. It does not play music, Bluray, or DVD's. Plus the 5 gig install when you first get it , the slow download speeds, and the fact Nintendo is willing to rip people off on launch day puts a bad taste in my mouth. Hardware gets a D- grade.
    Games. Well the launch lineup was great but there is a problem. Aside from Zombie U and Assassins Creed 3 all of the 3rd party games are old and can be found much cheaper on the other consoles. Tekken and Sonic Racing are the exceptions only because the Wii U versions have extra's that puts them ahead of the other versions. As for the first party lineup? Nintendoland bored me. As for Mario Part 400 it is a good game but til Nintendo really goes out of their way to beef up the look and gameplay, I can safely say I am done with 2-D Mario. Especially after playing the recent Rayman games. Games at launch get a C. Why? Because all of the good games are found on other systems and most are cheaper.
    As for the future? Well it is safe to say when the new XBOX and Playstation comes out the Wii U is gonna look like a dinosaur. Third party support will suffer and almost all of the newer titles will either not show up on the Wii U or the core team will hire someone to make a horrific port that looks 10 years old. There is already a tread here. On the 360 for example you have to consider the back catalog of third party games. Deus EX Human Evolution, Bioshock, Red Dead Redemption, Mirror's Edge...Or you can look at what is coming out or was just released. Borderlands 2, Hitman, Tomb Raider, DMC, Boshock Infinite, Grid 2, and Metro Last light. None releasing on Wii U. Not to mention GTA4. Actually aside from Pikmin 3 and Bayonetta 2.....no one knows what is coming. EA releases everything for every system. The fact Dead Space 3, Most wanted, and Crysis 3 are not releasing and looking at the laughable sports titles on the Wii U , it is safe to assume EA is not gonna be heavily invested. And if EA does not care, Bethesda, Capcom, and everyone else probably won't either. Sure they released a few ports now to get whatever else they can but the future? Doubt it. The release schedule for the 360 looks much better this coming year not to mention the new XBOX will release. There just is no logical reason to get a Wii U.
    Of course there is Nintendo's 1st party games. Mario will always sale. But how many times am I gonna play the same thing? There will be Zelda and Metroid. But looking at the competition are those games really as good as we remember? Zelda still has no voice acting for crying out loud. And how about the other 1st party stuff? I would love another F-Zero, Starfox, Waverace, Pilotwings....But Nintendo keeps giving me mini-games. Or games with no depth. Pilotwings on the 3DS was a joke! Even they know this. I am sure there will be a Mario Kart but after playing Sonic & All-stars Racing I really don't care about Mario Kart anymore. I already know what it looks like. Nintendo has proven time and time again they have no desire to push the machine they release. Plus it seems for every release, someone else outdoes them anyway. Why play Mario when you can play Rayman? Why play Zelda when Skyrim is out?
    As a Nintendo fan I have to say they have dropped the ball for the last time. I cannot think of one good reason why someone should have a Wii U. Mine is now on Ebay and Craiglist. Hopefully Nintendo just becomes 3rd party. Because there machines are becoming a joke. And the Wii U is the biggest one yet.

  • timbers_WSU  

    One week later: Nintendo can't seem to get the little things right. Why is there no headset included when you claim you are taking online seriously? Why does it have to be plugged into the tablet since you stupidly left a headset jack off the pro controller? Why can I find the white 8 gig models everywhere but none of the ones people actually want? Why does my local Best Buy and Gamestop telling me they get white ones all the times but the black ones few and far between? Why is there only 8-32 gigs in the first place? Hard Drives are super cheap these days. Why are you releasing this system now instead of 5 years ago where the tech was already out-dated? Also, I don't get why Nintendoland has mini games where you have to use a Wiimote. Or why I have to have a separate channel for Wii games and Virtual Console games. What really makes me mad is the 8 gig model. The day I got it there is a 5 gig download just to get the thing up to date. It is complete BS.
    I have fond memories of the N64 launch. It launched with 2 games only but still was the best launch I ever had system wise. But the bast part of this launch is the Rayman Legends demo. No joke. The 3rd party games are fine, even if I played them before and New Mario Wii U is fine, even if I played it before, but Nintendo's new deal of releasing under-powered hardware with a gimmick is getting tired. In less than a year I have a funny feeling I will be trading mine toward Microsoft or Sony's next system. One last thing. Nintendo still refuses to acknowledge other companies good ideas. That is obvious with the hard drive. But there is no Blu-Ray, no trophies or achievement like model which is important to some people, Also....Nintendo needs to get serious about core gaming. It needs a FPS, A sim racer, sports......
    I understand Reggie knows nothing about games but him dodging questions does not make me very happy either. Why are you forcing people to buy SD Cards and USB Drives? Simple question. Why are you telling people it takes 3 years to make New Mario Wii U? Everyone knows it is the same engine and assets from the DS, original Wii, and 3DS. That game might of took 9 months to put together. 8 gig hard drive? Please, get it together Nintendo.

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