Sid Meier's Civilization VI: Rise and Fall

1. JohnKR

   Feb 10, 2018

   10

   One of the best expansion in the series. Why? It has some of the most original features in the series that we have never seen before alongOne of the best expansion in the series. Why? It has some of the most original features in the series that we have never seen before along with nine more nations we have never seen before along original wonders units buildings natural wonders.... And I applause that they tried new things in the right direction, that of immersion.
   
   Also I can't criticize the expansion for not fixing something that was all along in the series, bad AI. The AI was ALWAYS bad in civilization as in most strategy games, cause a strategy AI needs a computer you don't have. Actually I find the AI of this game a little better than that of V, cause it declares wars to me sometimes, something that in V it was almost impossible. Although it does not know what to do with all that army, but that was happening in V too(and cause cities where overpowered in V you decimate enemy armies in defence).
   
   *Civilization now is a game with hexes and many units, when Chess is with squares and some units. To have a computer to win a good chess player you need military staff with academic softwares. So think about it. Of course with time limit things are different but that is also true with civilization, try limited time, and then you will see a much more challenging AI.… Expand

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2. kraenk

   Feb 9, 2018

   9

   Don’t listen to this Rrichard guy here.He hates on every game except for Heart of Iron which has a 3.5 user score. This expansion is a greatDon’t listen to this Rrichard guy here.He hates on every game except for Heart of Iron which has a 3.5 user score. This expansion is a great expansion to an already great game.… Expand

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4. krj38

   Feb 19, 2018

   8

   I have to say that after my first playthrough, I'm looking forward to playing more of the expansion. However, I feel I must firstly mentionI have to say that after my first playthrough, I'm looking forward to playing more of the expansion. However, I feel I must firstly mention what kind of gamer I am, since my perspective weights in heavily on my thoughts and score. I play the game as a pastime, in hot seat mode with one more player against AIs on King difficulty and, on principle, am not striving or enjoying domination victories. I like to grow and manage my own cities and compete against 'balanced opponents' (preferably such who don't beat me, but are challenging through the eras). The fist game of Rise and Fall I had was probably the most fun I had with Civ VI since its release.
   
   Note: I might update my thoughts collected here after a couple of more games.
   
   What I liked:
   + The difficulty of playing against the AI. I played the vanilla game with the Smoother Difficulty mod, but decided to try stock Rise and Fall to see whether there was an improvement. I don't know for sure yet, but the AI did way better than before since I had a bad start, but I did not outclass the AI in late game the way I used to before. The game ended by turn 350 and the top AIs were scientifically and culturally on a similar level to human players, something I found vastly entertaining. The fist game was not too easy to become boring and not too difficult to become frustrating.
   + some adjustments to social policies removing some easily exploitable possibilities from the base game,
   + the dark/golden/normal era system adding a nice layer of competition (though I find heroic ages to be slightly too strong; they are from my experience too easy to score and the 3 bonuses to choose from is an overkill),
   + more variety, since new Civs, units and wonders are always welcome.
   
   What I didn't like:
   - overall, during wars the AI did slightly better than before, but that's nothing to write home about,
   - the AI's diplomacy has somewhat improved too, the decision the AI made did not seem so erratic, but the agendas system remains too punishing (negative modifiers from different governments or personal agendas, like the Viking's, are nearly impossible to mitigate by other actions),
   - some of the new Civs seem very strong; especially Korea with its insane bonuses and unique district,
   
   What I didn't like as much as I hoped or have mixed feelings about:
   - while governors are a nice addition, subjectively I didn't feel enthralled by managing another mechanic; also, some governors seem to be obviously better than others,
   - the loyalty system is interesting, it slows down conquest or allows to expand your empire during peaceful playthroughs - this is a plus; however, it appears to 'ruin' the early game by emphasising the need to rush your settlers and grab land even more than before because if you linger or have a bad start (e.g. your progress is hampered by barbarians) you won't be able to hold your newly settle cities due to loyalty pressure. I feel that the loyalty system in the early game could use some tweaking,
   - the emergency mechanic sounds amazing on paper, but due to the AI's ineptitude its implementation is rather mediocre and, as such, had marginal impact on my playthrough. However, in principle it is fun and may easily reward an active player.
   
   Overall, for a casual player who enjoys leading a civilisation, the expansion should be a fun addition to the vanilla mechanics which offers variety and freshness. For hardcore players who enjoy domination and want a wargame, not so much.… Expand

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5. YaBoiRoice

   Apr 8, 2018

   6

   This expansion has added a lot to Civilization VI and I like a lot about it. The loyalty system makes the game way more realistic and while itThis expansion has added a lot to Civilization VI and I like a lot about it. The loyalty system makes the game way more realistic and while it can be annoying sometimes I like it overall. Governors can really improve a city and have a large impact on your game, which I really like as well. The eras feature is original, but I have some issues with it. I feel like in some occasions you don't get era score when you really deserve it and the bonuses you get out of a golden age aren't really game-changing. The ways to get bonus era score after you've gone through a normal age are very limited and don't have a large impact. Overall, I think the era system would've worked better with more variety regarding ways to get era score and rewards you get after a golden or heroic era. The new leaders and troops are interesting and fairly balanced - I don't have complaints in that regard. My last problem with the expansion is that it didn't improve the AI, especially the combat AI - it's still horrible. To summarize Rise or Fall is an OK expansion to a great game, but I feel it could've been even better.… Expand

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6. acmehne

   Apr 3, 2018

   4

   This game has many of the same problems that civ 5 has: glitching/freezing, AI that will act ridiculously (in my first game I was at peaceThis game has many of the same problems that civ 5 has: glitching/freezing, AI that will act ridiculously (in my first game I was at peace with the english while they were attacking me). Like in civ 5, terrain that produces production is disproportionately valueable in the beginning. Like in civ 5, there is no functional map editor to create starting positions and what not to play made-up scenarios, which even civ 2 had. like civ 5, the graphics are fancy. happiness is city level, which (with housing) makes growing cities more difficult, favoring ICS strategy. Definately not worth the $.… Expand

   • 0 of 3 users found this helpful
7. SneakyBasterd

   Nov 21, 2018

   1

   Overpriced DLC for biggest Civ failure, unplayable and horrible Civ 6. Rise and Fall changes almost nothing. They just want more and moreOverpriced DLC for biggest Civ failure, unplayable and horrible Civ 6. Rise and Fall changes almost nothing. They just want more and more money, Now they charge 40 EUR for every DLC, it means whole game costs like a used car. Dont buy it.… Expand

   • 2 of 3 users found this helpful
8. chicoruso

   Jul 19, 2018

   0

   I gave 1 for Civilization 6, so I will give 0 for Rise and Fall. The developers resolved none of the problems that existed in Civ6:
   - CartoonI gave 1 for Civilization 6, so I will give 0 for Rise and Fall. The developers resolved none of the problems that existed in Civ6:
   - Cartoon Graphics
   - stupid Civics Tree that makes gameplay really ridiculous, so one can have Computers without even knowing Elecrticity lol.
   - Useless Wonders (instead of revising them, they introduced even more useless Wonders) - just in case you don't know why they are useless - they are too costly and the placement of them is so ridiculous, basically there is no need to bother building more than 1 or 2 (and there are more than 20 in the game), so more than 90% of them are absolute waste of... whatever.
   - Game is not really user friendly and countavle - counting the religious influence from other cities you have to look for those arrows, same things refers to the external tourism output - you can see it, but how it grows you basically have to calculate yourself (and this is a Culture vistory main prerequisite).
   - Religion victory is impossible in multiplayer, cause any military unit can kill your missionaries (in a single player game the AI is sooooo stupid that it won't do that), which makes religious victory a step back vs diplomatic vistory in Civ5 (that at least had sense).
   
   Instead of focusing on what's matter - Firaxis just added more ridiculous stuff
   - Golden/Dark ages - just more graphics at the end of every Age and a small and useless bonus on the top of that.continue
   - Governors - another complicated and quite useless concept that just make the game less countable.
   
   Resume: another project that just want to get more money from the famous franchise. Don't waste your money. Seriously, just don't.… Expand

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