Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords

1. therob91

   Jan 30, 2015

   10

   This game has some serious flaws but sometimes you simply have to look beyond the mechanical problems to see the splendor of a game(especiallyThis game has some serious flaws but sometimes you simply have to look beyond the mechanical problems to see the splendor of a game(especially when dealing with Obsidian.) I would start by saying that you really have to get this game on a PC and do some of the patching to restore the ending. It was originally rushed by LucasArts and it showed. The game is playable without the fan patches but you will be doing yourself a disservice playing the original release.
   
   This is one of the best RPGs in a wide array of areas. The characters have fleshed out backstories and feel very differentiated. The text tree use in this game is among the best ever done in terms of developing the characters you talk to and how it is integrated into the game. There are quite a few times where you can gain information and even traits through talking to crew members. This is one of my favorite parts of the game as simply from a mechanical perspective the idea of your character LITERALLY learning things from speech is represented by the fact that you gain actual stat bonuses etc, from the dialogue. There are speech points in battle(or just before) that also affect the enemy stats, this is very rare and you might not even know that is how the game is working but that is the level of detail put into the speech in this game. The light/dark system is certainly binary but this is the Star Wars universe, there is really no getting around the light/dark representations of the force and this honestly is probably the best game or movie for actually making the dark side seem more alluring to someone that is not literally evil.
   
   The combat is not particularly good, though. You can have some fun seeing the lightsaber for the first time or using a new force skill here or there but it feels fairly weak compared to the rest of the game, but I'd still say its solid for an RPG. Stealth seems pretty much useless other than incredibly rare spots. There can also be some annoying cases of running back and forth for quests, and I swear to god the card game cheats, no one can convince me otherwise.
   
   Overall though, when you look past its flaws you are in for a rare treat. This game ends up being much greater than the sum of its parts, because these types of experiences simply aren't made very often, 10/10.… Expand

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2. grobovwik

   Sep 21, 2011

   10

   KOTORs - is the best stuff what whole Lukas's universe given to the world. And a sequel better then first Old Republic. More philosophical,KOTORs - is the best stuff what whole Lukas's universe given to the world. And a sequel better then first Old Republic. More philosophical, more lyrical.… Expand

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4. AndrewB

   Feb 16, 2005

   10

   I usually don't go into sites like this and rate my favorite game, but after seeing the rating I felt I had to give my opinion: this is I usually don't go into sites like this and rate my favorite game, but after seeing the rating I felt I had to give my opinion: this is simply one of the best RPGs I've played. Amazing interface, plotline, and interactivity. I have not been this impressed by a game in a long time.… Expand

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5. Beefheart

   Sep 20, 2012

   9

   One of the Best and the most flawed games you can find. Lucas Art forced an early release and denied Obsidian the chance to release a gameOne of the Best and the most flawed games you can find. Lucas Art forced an early release and denied Obsidian the chance to release a game patch later. That means that KotOR 2 is heavily cut, especially towards the ending; and it was intended to be an open ending from the start, much like Empire Strikes Back, to begin with. On the good side TSLRCM fan-made mod managed to restore many of the cut contents, which lead to a bearable ending, especially for a Light Side player. Be advised: it makes the game very buggy on Onderon, but it's still worth it if you play for the story like I do. If you play the "vanilla" version than it deserves it's 7.8 score. KotOR 2: The Sith Lords has a slower pacing than the first game, and a different, darker and more reflective vibe. It's more rich and detailed, one of the deepest stories set in the Star Wars universe. It explores more gray, morally ambiguous areas, questioning the Force itself and its ways, the position of jedis in the galaxy and the effect of a war on them, the consequences of their actions, and their echoes. To say it plainly if that's not what you are looking for, KotOR2 won't do for you. Otherwise it will make for a fulfilling, if somewhat wearing experience, featuring some of the best NPCs ever seen in a RPG game, many of which will echo strongly the feeling you got from some of the NPCs from the masterpiece Planescape: Torment.… Expand

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6. Blackfalcon501

   Jun 7, 2016

   8

   Lets just say I absolutely love this game with its fantastic story, interesting characters and a different type of star wars i haven't seenLets just say I absolutely love this game with its fantastic story, interesting characters and a different type of star wars i haven't seen portrayed in any other game
   
   Pros
   + Fantastic Atmosphere
   + Improved Game play to its predecessor
   + Interesting Story and decisions that leave lasting impacts
   
   Cons
   - Can be extremely buggy
   - Missing Content
   - Lack of quality in certain areas
   
   Overall the game is still one of my all time favorite star wars games despite its issues. The only things holding me back from giving the game a higher rating is the lack of overall polish and the rushed production, But if you install the The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod it easily brings it up to a 9/10… Expand

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7. HereticAlpha

   Mar 17, 2014

   7

   SW:KotOR II is a wonderful example of how to take a great concept, show it to the player, let them bask in it for a few minutes and then crushSW:KotOR II is a wonderful example of how to take a great concept, show it to the player, let them bask in it for a few minutes and then crush it. Throughout the story, there is the underlying theme of "right and wrong are just perceptions", yet everything you do is so polarized between right & wrong that it's impossible to really drive that theme home. Each of the characters in your arsenal have SOME moral grey area and inner demons that they all must confront in some form, but it's poorly undercut by that light side/dark side conflict that demands the spotlight and just serves to make the characters more bland and just as polarized.
   
   KotOR had the luxury of being able to throw an INCREDIBLE twist at the player toward the end, but without that, KotOR II builds up a great atmosphere, great tension and then just... stopped it all. The ending can't even be considered a "Deus ex Machina" because there was no real conclusion, there's just "this is the good guy's ending" and "this is the bad guy's ending".… Expand

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8. Ragegoberts

   Apr 3, 2022

   0

   the combat system is utter trash. have fun missing 90% of your attacks cause your guy is too stupid to hit anything. avoid this trash

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