Zeitgeist
by The Smashing Pumpkins
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7.7

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  1. robg.
    Jul 16, 2007
    9
    As a fan since 1994, i'm thoroughly happy. The band is growing and evolving unlike the majority of their peers. Still able to create albums unique from the others that are prevalent and relevant
  2. Dustin
    Jul 11, 2007
    9
    Upon listening to the live stream promo release of the Smashing Pumpkins new album Zeitgeist, I wasn't very impressed. The definitive Pumpkins sound was in there somewhere, but I thought it was lost in the mix somehow. The vocals were too sharp and high in the mix and the layered vocals bordered on ridiculous in songs like Starz. Moreover, Jimmy Chamberlin's excellent drumming Upon listening to the live stream promo release of the Smashing Pumpkins new album Zeitgeist, I wasn't very impressed. The definitive Pumpkins sound was in there somewhere, but I thought it was lost in the mix somehow. The vocals were too sharp and high in the mix and the layered vocals bordered on ridiculous in songs like Starz. Moreover, Jimmy Chamberlin's excellent drumming was buried in some parts. Perhaps working with Roy Thomas Baker (producer for Queen, The Cars...) was a mistake? Maybe recording the album with Butch Vig (Nevermind, Siamese Dream) would have been a better idea, to help recapture the magic of old? Tonight I received an email telling me I could download my pre-order of Zeitgeist through iTunes (normally I don't buy lossy music but I wanted the code for advance concert ticket orders). After loading it into my iPod I settled in to give the album a proper listen and decide whether my original impression of the album would stand. Firstly, the album version sounds much better than the internet streams and leaks. Anyone who steals this album and thinks is sounds bad needs to take a listen from a CD or official source. It is amazing how much worse a badly compressed file can sound. If the iTunes version sounds this good, then I am getting the CD ASAP to see if it is even better. The production is very clean, and while I would still have liked the vocals to be mixed slightly lower, I feel that I can live with them as the guitars now hold their own and the drums are solid. The album doesn't sound like any other Pumpkins record so comparisons can be thrown out the window but dark and sultry are the closest adjectives I can find to describe the production. Upon pressing play, the album launches into overdrive with tracks, Doomsday Clock and 7 Shades of Black. The buzzing drone of Doomsday Clock channels a more radio friendly version of Bodies from MCIS, and 7 Shades recalls the track Dross from the group's free internet release Machina II, with a little bit of Geek USA and Sabbath thrown in for good measure. Unfortunately, missing is the fast/slow dynamic of earlier Pumpkins songs. Still, very solid tracks. Bleeding the Orchid is a dark, undulating track that continues the dark tone of the album, and sounds like a long lost b-side from Gish. This track is the first to make apparent the trend of vocal layering used throughout the album, for good or bad. In a wash of warm faded guitars, Thats the Way (My Love Is) reminds of a Zwan take on Stand Inside Your Love. "Of course I love you baby/'cause i'm alive" sings Billy, and one can't help but wonder if he is speaking to former lover Courtney Love. Before listening to Tarantula, it is apparent that the lyrics of Zeitgeist are pseudo-political from lines like "in whitewashed halls/their jackals lick their paws...", but after listening to Tarantula it becomes apparent what the title Zeitgeist (The Spirit of the times) means. If the lyrics "don't let me say this/but you're no worse than me/its crazy/we are the real/if real ever was/and just because/we are the real/they feel we have enough" aren't enough to interpret Billy's motives, the not too subtle single cover with Paris Hilton standing in front of a mushroom cloud with a Blackberry in hand completely gives them away. The concept of the album centers around America's apathy and languorous attitude concerning the political and social climate produced by our leaders and felt by people around the world. Indeed, the climate of bloggers and MySpace has led to a public more interested in Britney's Spears' haircut than more serious subjects. Although Billy admits, Paris and his listeners are no worse than him, as we are all "Starz". Someone, (the internet, paparazzi, corporations?) gave us sound. Starz is a repetitive, David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust homage with more vocal layering which reaffirms the earlier thematic elements discussed. After Starz, the album reaches it's climax with the rollicking 9:51 minute track United States. This track is indulgent, but it is nevertheless impressive and obviously meant to be a live jam track with warbled guitars and Billy exclaiming "revolution!/what will they do to you?". The bombastic United States is followed by a 1979 inspired track Neverlost with marimbas in the background. Although many will skip this track while listening to the album, it is important because it sets the tone for the second half of the album which turns from dark and brooding to hopeful. "Lets kill these hours/and fill desire" Billy croons in this love song. Bring the Light, is the newest sounding song on the album, and although repetitive, it sounds like a radio single with its catchy lyrics and Brian May/Ava Adore guitar solo. (Come On), Lets Go! is Pop-Grunge (oxymoron?) at its finest and is somehow eerily similar to Today. Billy sings about escaping "c'mon lets go/beyond the great unknown/beyond their punched-up skulls/to die upon this road". C'mon Billy, any Grunge fan knows it's not a great unknown it's a "Superunknown". The final two songs sound very much out of place. Billy slips back into dark and brooding mode with "God and Country" which sounds like a b-side from Adore or Machina with its synth-pop mechanics. However, it would never fit on those albums with its political message. Pomp and Circumstance is difficult to describe but if you have seen movies like 1492: Conquest of Paradise, or other period exploration movies you will recognize the influence. The Tribal Island sounds remind of perhaps The Thin Red Line? The song is hopeful. So thematically, it fits the arch of sounds Billy has created, but still somehow it still doesn't seem to fit. Zeitgeist judged against other Pumpkins works isn't their best and isn't their worst. As noted in many web forums, Jame Iha and D'arcy Wretsky had very little to do with the recording of the classic Pumpkins records so it is difficult to say if their influence is missed here. The Smashing Pumpkins are an ever changing sound imagined by Billy Corgan and made possible by the remarkable rhythms produced by Jimmy Chamberlin. Each Pumpkins album is different and meant to be appreciated on its own, and on its own Zeitgeist is great. Highlights for me are: 7 Shades, Bring the Light, Tarantula, Starz, Bleeding the Orchid, and (Come On).… Expand
  3. AndyC
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    Impossible to judge a pumpkins album without listening to it for about 5 years. They all come good in the end. Having said that I've listened through about 3 times and it's still brill.
  4. Ricko
    May 15, 2012
    8
    The first post Smashing Pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins album. This got a very lukewarm reaction from both critics and fans but I think it's a really strong album. For me it's the 5th most enjoyable SP record but I would class the 4 I rate above it as some of the greatest rock albums of all time. Yes it's self-indulgent in parts and the production definitely leaves something to be desired.The first post Smashing Pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins album. This got a very lukewarm reaction from both critics and fans but I think it's a really strong album. For me it's the 5th most enjoyable SP record but I would class the 4 I rate above it as some of the greatest rock albums of all time. Yes it's self-indulgent in parts and the production definitely leaves something to be desired. There are a few ordinary (Neverlost and Pomp and Circumstances spring to mind immediately) tracks on here that fail to add any value to the album but when you get down to it, more than half of the songs on the record are excellent. The musicianmanship from Corgan and Chamberlain is outstanding. There are a couple of tracks that came out as after Zeitgeist but around the same time that could have replaced the weaker tracks and pushed this record up a notch. Will be interesting to see what it's follow up Oceania will be like due out this year. Especially without the drum sound of Jimmy Chamberlain.… Expand
  5. TiagoM.
    Jul 5, 2007
    9
    Isn't a Smashing Pumpkins album? Yes it is, new songs, new soul state, new sonority, more light in the dark, yes, all is new but someone could tell rs that there is two smashing pumpkins albums with the same kind of sonority? There are some guys who will appreciate Bill's work as a bad thing just because they want 11 or 13 years after one more Mellon Collie or one mor Siamese Isn't a Smashing Pumpkins album? Yes it is, new songs, new soul state, new sonority, more light in the dark, yes, all is new but someone could tell rs that there is two smashing pumpkins albums with the same kind of sonority? There are some guys who will appreciate Bill's work as a bad thing just because they want 11 or 13 years after one more Mellon Collie or one mor Siamese Dream. Everything changes, time pass by, music and all arround are complitly different, but the Pumpkins have to be the same all the time. Zeigeist is a great great cd, for the old fans and for a new rock fans, great music, great vocals and a second to second studio work music.… Expand
  6. alexp
    Jul 9, 2007
    8
    Great effort. listen to the music not whatever concepts of billy or smashing pumpkins you have. you self righteous pricks.
  7. DanieleA.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    Better than Machina I & II. Good point of start, the future is great!Sorry my english!!!
  8. Elliott
    Jul 1, 2007
    8
    I love it!!!! It's not as good as Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie, but it's arguably the best thing they've done since 1995. Welcome back, Pumpkins!
  9. JorgeS
    Jul 19, 2007
    8
    One of the best albums of the year. Zeitgeist contains the best of the smashing pumpkins first era. Enjoyable & necessary for this bad times of music.
  10. LucasC.
    Jul 2, 2007
    10
    Grande Álbum! Muito Metal praticamente em todas as músicas! Está entre os melhores do ano!
  11. MarcyC
    Aug 10, 2007
    10
    The best band album since siamese dream!
  12. CruellaDeVille
    Jul 11, 2007
    8
    I only bought this record because the Pumpkins were one of my favorite bands of the 90s. I expected it to be bad, but I have been pleasantly surprised. It is definitely worth buying.
  13. mullethead
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    Billy Corgan like all smart musicians understands his strengths and plays to them. The same clash of gloomy and uplifting, of heavy guitars and melodic vocals that made The Smashing Pumpkins take off in the first place is still evident here and it still sounds good
  14. aaronm
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    Critics have been bashing the pumpkins since siamese dream and its crap. This cd is absolutely stellar. There best? Of course not, but its hard rocking very solid cd and i was expecting something softer, more akin to his solo stuff or zwan. so so SO happy with this..critics are douchebags
  15. jamie
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    awesome. bleeding the orchid might just be my new favourite sp song. so much more entertaining then the current rip off rock bands bloating the market today
  16. SSE
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    Because Billy doesn't have james and d'arcy everyones gonna moan that its not the pumpkins which i don't understand cause billy pretty much did everything! This is a solid album and I think it's one of the best albums of the year along with Year Zero and its a hell of a lot better then the "music" thats doing the MTV circuit these days....
  17. Cristian
    Jul 2, 2007
    9
    ZARPADO! por suerte mejor disco que machina..
  18. AlexB
    Jul 3, 2007
    8
    Mixed emotions. Rocking but not as good as past efforts. The songs don't quite stay in your mind... Talent and effort is there though... Albeit too much.
  19. FernandoN.
    Jul 4, 2007
    9
    Even though the whole album isn't absolutely fantastic, it is necessary to say that "Doosmday Clock", "Starz", "United States", and "Bleeding the Orchids" are excellent songs. My personal favorite is "Starz", which, in my opinion, is already one of the best Pumpkins tracks ever. I really liked this new line-up! Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlain and the new members have good taste in Even though the whole album isn't absolutely fantastic, it is necessary to say that "Doosmday Clock", "Starz", "United States", and "Bleeding the Orchids" are excellent songs. My personal favorite is "Starz", which, in my opinion, is already one of the best Pumpkins tracks ever. I really liked this new line-up! Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlain and the new members have good taste in music! The other albums will probably be great, since they're touring together for the first time.… Expand
  20. SteveK
    Jul 4, 2007
    10
    Definitely their best effort in 10 years. A good return to the rock. and melodies that made them so great in the 90's.
  21. ja
    Jul 5, 2007
    7
    Boring, without soul, easy but noone sober expected more. Worst album of the band. Corgan totally lost it. Neverlost and tarantula save from disaster.
  22. LoveS.
    Jul 6, 2007
    9
    I think it deserves a better than average score and most critics are not even talking about the music!
  23. JuanS.
    Jul 6, 2007
    10
    This album have the most beautiful and strong songs like 'United States'. This is not a ordinary band , they are genious.
  24. Ramirez
    Jul 7, 2007
    10
    woow. just woow. Zeitgeist blew me away, Bring The Light/ Starz / That's the Way / Bleeding the orchid are tunes that are destined to deserve classic status..; didn't expect an album this good, very eclectic, very rocking, very good. Every single track stands on its own... album of the year so far hand down. it's hard to believe one who likes their sound, can dislike woow. just woow. Zeitgeist blew me away, Bring The Light/ Starz / That's the Way / Bleeding the orchid are tunes that are destined to deserve classic status..; didn't expect an album this good, very eclectic, very rocking, very good. Every single track stands on its own... album of the year so far hand down. it's hard to believe one who likes their sound, can dislike Zeitgeist, it's everything we could have asked for in one album! these reviews are plain ridiculous, Corgan will always get tons of s*** over him for no reason, he reclaimed his status as one of the best songwriters of all time… Expand
  25. NicholasC
    Jul 8, 2007
    8
    Critics are way too harsh. Nice return to form in my opinion.
  26. T.P.
    Jul 9, 2007
    9
    1. its not as good as Siamese or MCIS, but then again, those are two of the better albums produced since 1990, so its tough to beat them 2. this is a fantastic album. the critics love to rip on corgan for being something no one else is - a music pioneer. each album, each song is different. unlike others willing to just mail it in and receive a check for "recording" another album, corgan 1. its not as good as Siamese or MCIS, but then again, those are two of the better albums produced since 1990, so its tough to beat them 2. this is a fantastic album. the critics love to rip on corgan for being something no one else is - a music pioneer. each album, each song is different. unlike others willing to just mail it in and receive a check for "recording" another album, corgan continually looks to expand and develop new music 3. welcome back SP… Expand
  27. MarciaR.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    love this album!
  28. WolfgangO.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    A wholly satisfying album-length recall of the "Zero" single - which is a good thing. Gothy, glammy, even dancey at times.
  29. MaxM.
    Oct 29, 2007
    8
    I'm a very poor fan of heavy metal, but this is actually a very good album. I really enjoyed the guitar. It's a bit of a change from Smashing Pumpkins previous work.
  30. CorganR
    Jun 28, 2007
    10
    This is going to be the best album of the year, and I haven't even heard it yet!!! All you losers who don't like it can get off this site!!!!!!
  31. RT
    Jul 11, 2007
    10
    Easily the best actual rock album in years. From start to finish this album delivers. With hints of older Pumpkins, like Siamese Dream, but with a newer updated sound (if the same thing was done over and over it would become dull). Raw, heavy and dynamic - this album was clearly well thought out with a purpose in mind. So to those critics who rated this album low - maybe stick to the Easily the best actual rock album in years. From start to finish this album delivers. With hints of older Pumpkins, like Siamese Dream, but with a newer updated sound (if the same thing was done over and over it would become dull). Raw, heavy and dynamic - this album was clearly well thought out with a purpose in mind. So to those critics who rated this album low - maybe stick to the generic radio rock that you rated highly and has no impact what so ever. Its nice to know that to some of us, rock isn't completely dead.… Expand
  32. MattS.
    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    I'm sick of people panning this album because they think Billy Corgan's a jerk. That has little if anything to do with the music. And if Billy Corgan is only interested in the money, then why oh why did he release an LP and 3 EPs for FREE in 2000 (Machina II) and why did he perform a tour where he donated almost all of the proceeds to charity? Ginger and Jeff are better I'm sick of people panning this album because they think Billy Corgan's a jerk. That has little if anything to do with the music. And if Billy Corgan is only interested in the money, then why oh why did he release an LP and 3 EPs for FREE in 2000 (Machina II) and why did he perform a tour where he donated almost all of the proceeds to charity? Ginger and Jeff are better instrumentalists than D'arcy and James, but it matters very little since Corgan almost never allows anyone but Jimmy and him to record tracks for albums (this goes back as far as Siamese Dream). Also, this records sounds nothing like Top 40 metal, emo, or hard rock, and the people who are claiming it does obviously haven't listened to the album at all, or are hoping they can make their mark on the world by trying to derail an album by bitching about it online. If you think this album is simple and trashy, try analyzing it with music theory and see for yourself that its not as simplistic as you may think. This is a good Pumpkins album, better than Machina and probably better than Adore to most part-time Pumpkins fans. Yes, the mixing has some bizarre choices, but the selection of songs is far from sub-par. Give this album an chance and check out the Pumpkins in concert (they put on a great show!).… Expand
  33. LukeM
    Jul 1, 2007
    10
    It's shit hot! not only just as good but some of it is even better than past efforts. Corgan is one of the most versatile musicians alive today.
  34. RobertoR.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    Smashing Pumpkins're back. No zwan, no billy corgan solo album. They rock as the past. chamberlain is fantastic.
  35. ChrisI
    Jul 1, 2007
    9
    The Smashing Pumpkins are truly back. Recapturing the heavy sound from Gish and Siamese Dream. All tracks will capture your attention and you will love the new direction the Pumpkins are going in! If you are into the heavy, intense sounding Smashing Pumpkins..this is the right album for you!
  36. GaryC
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    What's with the production...I can't get over how strange the mix is...the over layerd vocals sound wierd in some places and Billy's voice lacks the shrill bite that I'm used to. Again, in comparison to what else is out there...this album beats the crap out of it. All the new rockers could take a lesson from this stuff, but for S.Pumpkins status it's just okay. What's with the production...I can't get over how strange the mix is...the over layerd vocals sound wierd in some places and Billy's voice lacks the shrill bite that I'm used to. Again, in comparison to what else is out there...this album beats the crap out of it. All the new rockers could take a lesson from this stuff, but for S.Pumpkins status it's just okay. Well, it's really good, very creative, strong melodies...but the punch isn't all quite there. There are moments when the music sounds intensely beautiful, or intensely dark...but the moments are far between. At least the Pumpkins have turned from the mainstream mush they seemed destined for with they're last two albums. Maybe the new lineup is a benefit in that sense...in all I'm impressed that the two remaining members can still push the band to these levels. A little more TLC on these songs might have been welcome.… Expand
  37. FrankA.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    While it isn't a masterpiece like Siamese Dream, its artistic, heavy and inspiring all in one. Do yourself a favor, get some good speakers (bose), pop in the CD, crank it and listen to Doomsday Clock........if you don't get goosebumps within the first minute, check your pulse. I've been seeing bad reviews all day about this album and its not shocking, great art is not While it isn't a masterpiece like Siamese Dream, its artistic, heavy and inspiring all in one. Do yourself a favor, get some good speakers (bose), pop in the CD, crank it and listen to Doomsday Clock........if you don't get goosebumps within the first minute, check your pulse. I've been seeing bad reviews all day about this album and its not shocking, great art is not understood by all. I think classic fans and new fans of the pumpkins will be very happy with the album.… Expand
  38. RamiroS.
    Jul 12, 2007
    10
    best album of 2007!
  39. AdamE
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    It is unfortunate that critics have almost uniformly decided to measure this album against the highest achievements of the band. When assessed independently of the Pumpkins oeuvre, Zeitgeist proves to be a forceful and fun contribution to rock music. If any other band put out this record, it would be on all the critical year-end lists that matter.
  40. EdmondL
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    An excellent album, has some good rockers. Give it time to sink in, you might not like it at first. Definitely worth buying, the bonus tracks are great as well.
  41. AnthonyS.
    Jul 13, 2007
    9
    I really enjoy this album. It isn't a classic album like siamese melon collie, or gish, but it is both better than anything since and such a refreshingly good album in this day and age of dead mainstream rock. It is signature pumpkins music, albeit the harder edge of their leanings, but there is a good poppy song or 2 for you 1979 folks, as well as the seemingly unavoidable I really enjoy this album. It isn't a classic album like siamese melon collie, or gish, but it is both better than anything since and such a refreshingly good album in this day and age of dead mainstream rock. It is signature pumpkins music, albeit the harder edge of their leanings, but there is a good poppy song or 2 for you 1979 folks, as well as the seemingly unavoidable appearance of a bland billy C love song, which occur on most all pumpkins records. Jimmy bangs the hell out of the drums, and Corgan melts faces on the guitar. His voice has thankfully remained strong. The howling "Owwww!!" in the 10 minute "United States" sums up my feelings pretty well about this album. A Refreshing Blast of badly missed Pumpkins energy. Bring on more SP albums!!… Expand
  42. JustinD.
    Jul 14, 2007
    9
    I did not expect to love this album, but as a someone who came up with 90s rock, it provides nostalgia and relevancy if that is possible. It's obvious that if the Pumpkins had made this album as a follow up to Melancollie, there wouldn't be any doubt to the group's greatness, but it came ten years too late for the "experts."
  43. rogerc.
    Jul 14, 2007
    10
    amazing!
  44. TalonP.
    Jul 15, 2007
    10
    An awesome, almost perfect album, receiving the same critical abuse as every other Pumpkins record ever released. Exploring new production techniques is as interesting as their exploration of new musical territory. Production in rock music has become stale and standardized; this is a break from that cement concept, which is good to hear, if a little odd at first listen. This album has An awesome, almost perfect album, receiving the same critical abuse as every other Pumpkins record ever released. Exploring new production techniques is as interesting as their exploration of new musical territory. Production in rock music has become stale and standardized; this is a break from that cement concept, which is good to hear, if a little odd at first listen. This album has captivated me entirely; the fact that NME doesn't like it (or more likely doesn't like Billy) makes not the slightest shade of difference to me. I pity those who take anothers' opinions as their own - especially taking them from the music press; the same press that has dogged pretty much all of the greatest bands and albums of all time. It is all just subjective opinion. Why not make up your own mind and stop reading reviews? Including this one.… Expand
  45. MarcosS.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    The Best álbum since Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness!
  46. rogergillss
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    perfect!
  47. christianw
    Jul 19, 2007
    7
    This album is better than Machina and Adore but not as good as Gish, SD and MCATIS. The former two had that electro-clatter that stripped the music of soul and that wonderful organis cound they had. Fortunately the organic sound is back. CAN YOU GET YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT, WAYNE B???
  48. OttoH.
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    I am a pumpkin fan of the 1st order and i can say I really like this album! It is really diverse! i like especially 'Bleeding the orchid', 'Bring the light' and Come on let's go. But also Tarantula and United States rock!. Maybe some tunes are 'easy', but so?? they do rock deeply :-) What i find intriguing is that the especially the people that criticize I am a pumpkin fan of the 1st order and i can say I really like this album! It is really diverse! i like especially 'Bleeding the orchid', 'Bring the light' and Come on let's go. But also Tarantula and United States rock!. Maybe some tunes are 'easy', but so?? they do rock deeply :-) What i find intriguing is that the especially the people that criticize this album almost all do cherry some songs on the album, but they do not seem to agree which are the good one and which are the bad ones. One thing for sure 'Pomp and Cirumstances' is not the best song of the album. :-)… Expand
  49. jasonl
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    This is the best Pumpkin's cd yet.
  50. [Anonymous]
    Jul 2, 2007
    10
    I think this is the return to form without repeating the past that Billy and Jimmy needed to pull off in order to brand themselves the Pumpkins. There is a little of everything except acoustic guitar on this album, although Pomp and Circumstance is pretty mellow. If you want loud, crunchy guitar riffing and massive intricate drumming this is a great album.
  51. KelCone
    Jul 2, 2007
    10
    They actually put out a good album!!! Hopefully its quality will put to rest the anti-Corgan press. All hail BmfnC.
  52. btcl
    Jul 2, 2007
    10
    Solid. I feel like I'm back in the 90s.
  53. TryptophanAromatic
    Jul 2, 2007
    7
    Zeitgeist is a consistent and enjoyable record that nurses long-time fans of the band back into good health after a distinctively commercial marketing campaign involving big-budget hollywood epics (Michael Bay's Transformers) and exlusive deals with various supermarket franchises (recieving alternative versions of the album) appeared to offer a bleak vision of a 21st century Pumpkins Zeitgeist is a consistent and enjoyable record that nurses long-time fans of the band back into good health after a distinctively commercial marketing campaign involving big-budget hollywood epics (Michael Bay's Transformers) and exlusive deals with various supermarket franchises (recieving alternative versions of the album) appeared to offer a bleak vision of a 21st century Pumpkins - one minus the alternative spirit that made this band so dear to us all. Fortunately, the album delivers the trademark pumpkins sound without sounding rehashed. The sound is loud and aggressive, full of a politically charged bombast that (argueably) constitutes the most socially 'relevent' material corgan has participated in. Sonically, its simple: - Fans of Gish, SD (PI) & MCIS will be utterly satisfied, proclaiming the album the bands best since 1995. - Fans of Adore, Machina & Machina 2 will find the album enjoyable but ultimately lacking. Overall, Zeitgeist is a welcome return from a sorely missed band, assualting you sonically and delivering enjoyabel, consistent rock n roll that ultimately fails to take the band to new heights.… Expand
  54. JeffO
    Jul 23, 2007
    8
    I had to listen several times before the hooks caught on and the feeling sunk in. On my first listen I wasnt sure... After a few more listens, my opinion changed dramatically. While this album does contain 2 of the worst songs billy may ever write, it also contains some of the most infectious songs of the year. Worth every penny for Tarantula, Doomsday, Neverlost, Thats the way, and Bring I had to listen several times before the hooks caught on and the feeling sunk in. On my first listen I wasnt sure... After a few more listens, my opinion changed dramatically. While this album does contain 2 of the worst songs billy may ever write, it also contains some of the most infectious songs of the year. Worth every penny for Tarantula, Doomsday, Neverlost, Thats the way, and Bring the Light. However, DO NOT give pomp and Circumstance or United States a 2nd chance they sound aweful every time. WELCOME BACK BILLY AND JIMMY!!!! I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!… Expand
  55. YanM
    Jul 31, 2007
    9
    I think that the media are going nut with their review. they got something against corgan its clear. This album is the best Pumpkins material I have heard since Siamease Dream.
  56. FernandoR.
    Jul 3, 2007
    10
    That's Rock and Roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  57. Rob
    Jul 3, 2007
    10
    This is a great album from start to finish. The pumpkins are the once and future kings of modern rock!
  58. preceptorteeth
    Jul 3, 2007
    9
    it´s another great album by the best band of all times. not a masterpiece, like siamese dream and mcis, but so awsome and intense as adore and gish, and better tham machina (who still a great album).
  59. FelipeP.
    Jul 3, 2007
    10
    Fantastic Record! Better than Machina! Love SP!
  60. BrandonC.
    Jul 5, 2007
    9
    This album is what adore should of been. its a step forward from mellon collie, its more than just solid. its full of great musicianship. its quite heavy and it seems jimmy took it up a notch with his drumming (united States). this is an essential album for the typical smashing pumpkins fan..
  61. GeorgeO.
    Jul 6, 2007
    7
    A very nice come back. I was surprised about the strenght of this album but compared with previous albuns its inferior so.. 7 is today my voting :)
  62. MonicaK.
    Jul 7, 2007
    10
    All that I have to say is that the average score given by the critics is absolute B.S....If Kelly Clarkson and Avril Lavigne's albums are better reviewed, then it's obvious that no one should take these reviews seriously. ROCK ON SP!
  63. AlphaA
    Jul 8, 2007
    8
    If they were an indie band, critics would have slapped 9's all over. Music critics nowadays are stupid.
  64. KrisS
    Jul 8, 2007
    9
    Meh... Few reviews of the album actually bother to rate the music, itself. They all piss and moan about motives, the past, why James and D'Arcy apparently made the Smashing Pumpkins who they were (which is kind of false in a lot ways). For once, I couldn't be more opposed to the current Metacritic rating. Billy just can't ever win... I hope the fan response helps.
  65. JMG
    Jul 8, 2007
    7
    Personally, I find it appalling that many critics (I've read more than just this selection) aren't talking about the music at all. They're going on and on about the band drama while SP has released a nice little album here. You know what? I hope this work is successful because these critics clearly aren't doing their jobs. Songs like "United States", "7 shades of Personally, I find it appalling that many critics (I've read more than just this selection) aren't talking about the music at all. They're going on and on about the band drama while SP has released a nice little album here. You know what? I hope this work is successful because these critics clearly aren't doing their jobs. Songs like "United States", "7 shades of black" "That's the way", 'Bring the Light" and "Tarantula" are really good songs and are worthy of the SP moniker. It sounds like them and I now realized how sorely I've missed their sound. Welcome back.… Expand
  66. jayp
    Jul 8, 2007
    8
    Lets face it. its no S/D or Mellon/c. But serious what will ever be as great as those albums ever. I give it an 8 just because i'm glad they stuck with that they do best.. Rock and Roll. and for all you people that don't like For god and country, i dont know whats wrong with you, its a great song. sometimes you listen to something, you don't like but then after awhile it Lets face it. its no S/D or Mellon/c. But serious what will ever be as great as those albums ever. I give it an 8 just because i'm glad they stuck with that they do best.. Rock and Roll. and for all you people that don't like For god and country, i dont know whats wrong with you, its a great song. sometimes you listen to something, you don't like but then after awhile it grows on you. I think all the songs are tight. i'm not really diggin the last song thou But 4 all you people you should really check out (death from above) its the bonus track. they should of placed that 4 the end song.. Cheers people.… Expand
  67. dimae.
    Jul 9, 2007
    9
    I guess most people just overestimated their ability. We all think Billy doesn't dare to make just an ordinary "brilliant cd". We all expected masterpiece like.
  68. WilliamO.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    After the 1st listen or 2 I was wondering how much I actually liked it. After 3 or 4 listenings with headphones (A MUSH FOR THIS ALBUM) it really grew on me. Then I added the 3 "bonus" tracks: Stellar, Death From Above, and Zeitgeist to make the album 15 songs and I must say it is excellent. Very hard to compare to their previous CDs, because it has a little from each in it. Please do After the 1st listen or 2 I was wondering how much I actually liked it. After 3 or 4 listenings with headphones (A MUSH FOR THIS ALBUM) it really grew on me. Then I added the 3 "bonus" tracks: Stellar, Death From Above, and Zeitgeist to make the album 15 songs and I must say it is excellent. Very hard to compare to their previous CDs, because it has a little from each in it. Please do yourself the favor of listening to this at least 3 times with decent headphones and add the 3 bonus tracks before you make a judgement. Trust me, you will love it. These idiot critics I am sure listened to it once and hate Billy Corgan anyway (all most talk about is the band's history, not the album itself). SP IS BACK!!!!… Expand
  69. Frans
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    Good album
  70. rogergillss
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    perfect!
  71. JamesC.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    Their best album!
  72. DavidH.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    Great album.
  73. MarkS.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    The same ingenious Corgan songwriting and loud guitars from Machina and MCIS. Although his lyrics seem a bit more Zwan-ish, nothing short of amazing.
  74. AaronB
    Aug 1, 2007
    8
    After 7 years Billy Corgan seems to have forgot the formula to making a great music but his lyrics still rock!
  75. SethE
    Aug 14, 2007
    10
    This ablum stands alone as some of the best work TSP has done yet todate, I hope there is more to come :)
  76. scottw
    Aug 15, 2007
    7
    Fun, heavey, fast and very smashing. If your a fane of the old stuff, you are bound to injoy this album.
  77. CallumR.
    Aug 28, 2007
    10
    They are back and its great to have them! Bleeding The Orchid should change anyones mind who has written them off due to the line up!
  78. LukeN
    Aug 9, 2007
    9
    Most of you guys and the critics are being way harsh on this album. I personaly think it's amazing and a major kick in the butt to all other bands our right now trying to make good rock music. Billy has come back and showed them how it's done. Serously, in the song Tarantula, when he breaks out with those crazy guitar sounds before it slows up for a bit, that is real rock and Most of you guys and the critics are being way harsh on this album. I personaly think it's amazing and a major kick in the butt to all other bands our right now trying to make good rock music. Billy has come back and showed them how it's done. Serously, in the song Tarantula, when he breaks out with those crazy guitar sounds before it slows up for a bit, that is real rock and roll. Nobody else does that anymore. Billy Corgan has not let me down yet. I'm not sure how I would have gotten through my highschool years without siamese dream and Melancholy and this is just what I needed at this point in my life. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the last song doesn't give me goosbumps like everything else. Can't wait to hear the next record.… Expand
  79. GeraldP.
    Sep 19, 2007
    10
    LOL this album came out in June and hasn't left my car since.. Its a great rock and roll CD. Best album from the pumpkins since adore.
  80. GeoffW.
    Sep 29, 2007
    10
    Very solid and competent return from the Pumpkins.
  81. NickK.
    Sep 8, 2007
    7
    I agree the vocal mixing (and clarity in general) is something of an issue here. Likewise, the lack of diversity which characterized Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream etc. does make this less rewarding listening (maybe I'm getting old, but my ears tired of the same sound/dynamics across the first 11 tracks). Essentially, it sounds to me like a couple of kids who have set up a drum kit and I agree the vocal mixing (and clarity in general) is something of an issue here. Likewise, the lack of diversity which characterized Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream etc. does make this less rewarding listening (maybe I'm getting old, but my ears tired of the same sound/dynamics across the first 11 tracks). Essentially, it sounds to me like a couple of kids who have set up a drum kit and a nasty guitar rig in their garage, and are having a ball rocking out themselves, perhaps at the expense of other listeners. The exception here, and the reason I gave it a 7, was that it's Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlain playing, two of the best rock musicians of the last 20 years, so it still makes impressive listening. It's clearly an album written by a guitarist and a drummer, but very talented ones, so it has its moments.… Expand
  82. f4b
    Feb 3, 2008
    7
    Maybe Corgan is no more trendy for the critics, but this is a nice return with some very high moments. If you doubt Pumpkins are still good, see them live they are awesome!
  83. BrianP.
    Oct 11, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist has a hypnotic spinning to it that drives me to keep listening for things I might of not caught the first time. It's hard work and hard sound should be considered for bringing Alternative Music back into the late 2000's. It's still the Pumpkins because they are influencing and rule breaking the current lull of cheep money making pop sound today. . .
  84. petere
    Jun 28, 2007
    10
    awesome
  85. RobertB
    Jun 29, 2007
    10
    It burnt the lies off of my soul
  86. JerryR
    Jun 29, 2007
    9
    Fantastic album, some highlights are Thats The Way ( My Love Is ) and Bleeding The Orchid.
  87. MattD.
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    This is their best CD since Mellon Collie. It's a no take prisoners, aggressive CD. I see it as a perfection of the metallic edge that they showed before. Only problem is, sometimes the fuzz goes on for too long without a change. There are some little quirks to be found, though, like the blues rhythm in "For God And Country."
  88. JonN.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    Grrreeeaat!
  89. MikeL.
    Jul 11, 2007
    9
    Incredible effort for their first album in 7 years. I know it's not the same Pumpkins as before (Iha and D'Arcy are missing), but Corgan has always been the heart of the band, and Jimmy is brilliant in his drumming on Zeitgeist. The sound picks up where Machina left off. Its very heavy, but very accessible. Overall, its the best Pumpkins album since Mellon Collie.
  90. GuyS
    Jul 1, 2007
    10
    Corgan returns to reclaim the rock crown. To the relief of the majority of Corgans fans theres only one track which sounds a bit zwan (Thats the way (my love is) - god knows why thats the next single, though even thats better than most of the emo boy band 'rock' thats managed to cross the big pond in the last 7 years. All the pumokins trademarks are here, the loud-quiet Corgan returns to reclaim the rock crown. To the relief of the majority of Corgans fans theres only one track which sounds a bit zwan (Thats the way (my love is) - god knows why thats the next single, though even thats better than most of the emo boy band 'rock' thats managed to cross the big pond in the last 7 years. All the pumokins trademarks are here, the loud-quiet dynamics, distorted stratocasters and great hooks. The main difference I've noticed so far is corgans vocals being altered more and the songs are generally heavier and most of their post MCIS output (niice!) Pumpkins fans will not be disappointed with this record (I was one of the worried) and it should attract a whole new generation of fans. If you enjoy tuneful rock please listen to this lp.… Expand
  91. CarlW.
    Jul 11, 2007
    10
    Fantastic!
  92. Mike
    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    It is what it is. D'Arcy and James were fine, but the band was always Jimmy's jazz and Billy's metal. Lest not we remind the crying fans that Siamese Dream was recorded exactly the same way; Billy playing bass, guitars and vocals and Jimmy on drums. The album is solidly produced with some decent songs. Its the best effort since Mellon Collie. Don't take it for shame, It is what it is. D'Arcy and James were fine, but the band was always Jimmy's jazz and Billy's metal. Lest not we remind the crying fans that Siamese Dream was recorded exactly the same way; Billy playing bass, guitars and vocals and Jimmy on drums. The album is solidly produced with some decent songs. Its the best effort since Mellon Collie. Don't take it for shame, it is undeniable that the Pumpkins have changed, but it seems as though they took highlights from all their albums and put an agressively concise and impactful message out for the public. If you don't agree with the politics, fine- I know I don't. But take a look around, they may have a point.… Expand
  93. GeorgeM.
    Jul 11, 2007
    10
    This is truly one of the greatest bands ever. How can these absolute morons say that it lacks orginality. Its mind blowing I waited seven years for this and i am in no way dissapointed, it was definitely worth the wait. And this is a truely hard rocking album (no fairy included). WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  94. MrT
    Jul 12, 2007
    10
    just goes to show how much critics know about whats good...
  95. ryanm.
    Jul 12, 2007
    9
    This is an amazing and impressive album. The only downside is it displays only one aspect of the band's huge scope of versatility and songwriting. There are hits of what made them so versatile in the first place (the 10 seconds near the end of tarantula) but this is obviously the way they wanted it. It actually goes along with the theme of the album being frustrated by modern This is an amazing and impressive album. The only downside is it displays only one aspect of the band's huge scope of versatility and songwriting. There are hits of what made them so versatile in the first place (the 10 seconds near the end of tarantula) but this is obviously the way they wanted it. It actually goes along with the theme of the album being frustrated by modern america/gov. The pumpkins were always billy and jimmy, as much I respect james, billy wrote and played 95 of everything the pumpkins ever recorded. Obviously Jimmy is the other unique and irreplaceable part of the band.… Expand
  96. MorrisD.
    Jul 12, 2007
    7
    Not at par with Smashing Pumpkins material up to Adore but a good album in it's own right. Just not exceptional.
  97. justwonderful
    Jul 12, 2007
    10
    At first I despised this album. I was convinced Billy Corgan was a greedy, egotistical jerk who lost his touch. However, I kept listening to Zeitgeist. On the second listen, I thought it was simply mediocre... by the third, I was thinking it was average... by the fourth or fifth, I adored it completely. It's one of those "listen-more-love-it-more". Don't listen once and decide At first I despised this album. I was convinced Billy Corgan was a greedy, egotistical jerk who lost his touch. However, I kept listening to Zeitgeist. On the second listen, I thought it was simply mediocre... by the third, I was thinking it was average... by the fourth or fifth, I adored it completely. It's one of those "listen-more-love-it-more". Don't listen once and decide it's a travesty. Because it's not, it's genius. Personally, I think Zeitgeist is one of their best. It's honestly the only Pumpkins disc I can listen to the whole way through, without skipping tracks, because every single track has its own beauty.… Expand
  98. joeh.
    Jul 13, 2007
    9
    This is a very solid album. Having heard the majority of their work, I would tie this with Siamese Dream as their second-best album. Their are a variety of quality singles (tarantula,doomsday clock,thats the way), and the depth of the material is quite solid as well. Their only shortcoming is that some songs seem lacking in terms of ornamentation, i.e. you hear only the guitar and drums This is a very solid album. Having heard the majority of their work, I would tie this with Siamese Dream as their second-best album. Their are a variety of quality singles (tarantula,doomsday clock,thats the way), and the depth of the material is quite solid as well. Their only shortcoming is that some songs seem lacking in terms of ornamentation, i.e. you hear only the guitar and drums and little support from other instruments to fill the gaps. Other than these small issues, it's a triumphant return!… Expand
  99. markb.
    Jul 13, 2007
    10
    The Album of the year!
  100. RobertP.
    Jul 15, 2007
    9
    not the best of sp but still another production of musical genius by one of the greatest.
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59

Mixed or average reviews - based on 29 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 9 out of 29
  2. Mixed: 16 out of 29
  3. Negative: 4 out of 29
  1. Amazon.com
    80
    Overall, Corgan's captivating effort to mine both the spirit of these turbulent times and the soul of his defining band is a smashing success.
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  2. Blender
    60
    Zeitgeist’s orgy of avalanche rhythms, cascading riffs and sky-licking guitar is as grandiose as ever (the solo on "Tarantula" sounds like a nuke hitting a Guitar Center), but the bombast is softened as Corgan reaches out for shame-sharing community.
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  3. New Musical Express (NME)
    50
    It's best treated as a curio in the Smashing Pumpkins' legacy; and for those who grew up on 'Today', '1979' and 'Ava Adore', you're better left with your memories.
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